1849 colt pocket model cartridge conversion book

The pocket model revolvers all have a traditional coltstyle frame, generally with brass grip straps and trigger guard, and a casehardened steel frame. Thuer conversion colt 1849 revolver forgotten weapons. There are only 4 known wells fargo revolvers with a 4 inch barrel. I would like to add an other colt soon, maybe a 4 1849 but i am also interested in a converted 1849. Antique colt dealer and appraiser specializing in revolvers, pistols, rifles and accessories. Colt model 1855 percussion revolving carbine nra museums. Colt offered it as a conversion on the 1849 pocket, 1851 and 1861 navy, 1860 army by far the most common version, pocket pistol of navy caliber. On july 2nd, 1872, william mason, another employee from colt, was awarded a patent for an improvement to the richards model. A cartridgeconverted colt walker instead of the colt dragoon in the book was used in the 1969 film true. Both the book and pocket guide are signed by author robert m. The pocket model revolvers all have a traditional colt style frame, generally with brass grip straps and trigger guard, and a casehardened steel frame. Colt london model 1849 pocket revolver colt model 1851 navy revolver colt martial model.

Colt 1849 pocket revolver converted to single shot. These were converted to 38 centerfire and 38 rimfire calibers. Colt hartford, ct model 1849 pocket percussion revolver colt hartford, ct model 1851 navy percussion revolver colt hartford, ct model 1860 army singleaction percussion revolver. Book online this is an opportunity to try out a gun or rifle in a safe environment. I collect antique guns and have one colt 1849 pocket with 6 barrel. This particular thuer conversion is on an 1849 colt pocket revolver. What is the value of colt 1849 pocket revolverlondon model. All firearms in this sale are being handled and transferred in accordance with all applicable new york state and federal regulations. The pocket navy retained the octagonal barrel and traditional loading lever of the earlier pocket model but was upsized to. Ive included in the pictures a couple of observations from bruce mcdowells excellent book a study of colt conversions and other percussion revolvers. What is the value of colt 1849 pocket revolverlondon. Indeed, no other percussion revolver made in america could match the 1849 production record.

They discontinued the 1849 converter because accuracy sucked in the oversized bore of the. Even if they did make a conversion cylinder for the pocket. Wilsons the book of colt firearms, page 107 this rather diminutive revolver, a smaller brother to the 36 caliber model 1851 navy, met with the largest sales unit volume in all of colts percussion line. According to colt and from the serial number, this was made in 1862. Overall this is a really nice example of a factory engraved colt m1862 pocket navy cartridge conversion revolver. Help needed from colt percussion experts pocket 1849. This volume is the bible for the colt pocket model revolver of 1849. Colt merz antique firearms colt handguns and long guns. Dixie gun works was formally founded in 1954, but it could be said that dixie gun works actually began many years before. The colt dragoon revolver was produced with several variations between 1847 and 1860, when the colt model 1860 revolver replaced it. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia forgotten. These cartridges were loaded from the front of the cylinder and pressfit. In 1931, turner kirkland paid seventy five cents for a dug 1849 colt pocket pistol, which began a lifetime of buying and trading antique guns and parts. These conversions were performed throughout the 1870s as.

Help needed from colt percussion experts pocket 1849 i am not much of a blackpowder man, but have always wanted a nice old colt percussion to shoot occasionally. Had the right hammer assembly for my 1849 uberti pocket pistol and little fitting required for a perfect fit. Colt model 1849 pocket richardsmason conversion, blue. It falls into the correct serial range for a factory richardsmason conversion with serialmatching parts except for the wedge, and proper features and design for a colt conversion. This is only the second thuer conversion ive owned in over 40 years of collecting and the only pocket model. If you can do that with a cap and ball single action then you might be setting a guinness book of world cowboy action record. Made in a variety of barrel lengths, the 4inch barreled version, like cimarrons copy, was the most popular with those wanting a practical, yet concealable revolver.

Colt model 1849 pocket revolver percussion revolver. The colt factory applied the same technology to the 31 caliber revolvers, configuring them to accept five shot cylinders of 36 caliber. So they still carried the older 1849 serial numbers but the. Colt guns colt 1849 pocket page 1 collectors firearms. There is a good book out on the colt 1849 pocket by jordan. Colt pocket model 1865 of navy caliber percussion revolver. Conversion cylinders taylors conversion cylinder line offers an easy conversion option from black powder to smokeless ammunition. Made by colts patent fire arms manufacturing co, hartford, connecticut. The metal on the barrel has been almost entirely cleaned with nickel only in the protected. This revolver was quickly adopted by the army, furthering colts long association with the united states ordnance department.

These socalled transitional walkers were followed by the first, second, and third model dragoon revolvers, as well by as the baby dragoon, the model 1849 pocket revolver, and the model 1851 navy revolver. It has a 6 barrel and the cylinder is engraved with picture of a stage coach robbery. Thuers model conversions were done on the following model guns manufactured by colt. Customers must be over 21, and we require a copy of your drivers license for confirmation. The serial number is well beyond those being produced during the years of operation of colts london armoury, but the british proofmarks certainly denote it as. So the gun in boges link was made by colt as a factory cartridge conversion. Colt model 1851 navy cartridge conversion revolver manufactured in. No, you cant buy conversion cylinders for any of the pocket models. This 1849 was made in 1869, just after the civil war.

We send you a postagepaid box, you send us your gun, and it will be professionally repaired for a flat fee. Case hardened brass tg bs, 1 piece walnut, standard blue charcoal blue original finish, model ca038 all cimarron percussion revolvers come with authentic finishes. London made models, thuer and other metallic cartridge conversions, serial numbers. No frame modification is needed, although minor fitting may be required due to gun manufacturer variations.

Feb 17, 2018 the colt model 1849 pocket revolver was colts answer when replacing their baby dragoon series of guns. The richards cartridge conversion was an instant success. Many of the late production model 1865 pocket navy revolvers were converted from percussion to cartridge use. The picture shows a 7 12 barrel which is no longer available. Londonmade models, thuer and other metallic cartridge conversions, serial numbers.

Uberti 1849 pocket revolver parts taylors firearms. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia forgotten weapons. It was, some 810 years later converted to a cartridge revolver, likely at the colt factory. We offer conversion cylinders for revolvers such as the 1847 walker, 1848 dragoon, 1849 pocket, 1851 navy, 1861 navy, 1858 remington. The numbers of thuer conversions made are uncertain, simply because there were so many possible models. Colt transition richards model colt richardsmason conversion, 1860 army revolver. He established a new factory in hartford during that same year, and began production of a smaller, lighter. Some colt model 1865 pocket navies were shipped to the pall mall agency in london. Colt 1849 revolver 31 percussion rock island auction company.

This model is known as the 3 12 round barrel cartridge model serial number. This model was the last full production percussion revolver to be made by colt before the advent of the cartridge era by the factory. According to the blue book of gun values, this particular gun fits into the 300,000 serial number range, which makes it historically accurate to be a rare 3. This pocket is almost mint condition with approximately 75% of the original bright blue case colors.

Nimschke engraved colt model 1849 pocket percussion revolver sn 88942 with four inch barrel. The gun remains in nice, used but not abused condition and appears all correct and period with only the replaced grip potentially not being part of the original factory work. Make offer the government models colt 1911 the goddard book. This personal sidearm, in good original condition overall, features a 4 long, octagonal barrel 286517. Ive included in the pictures a couple of observations from bruce mcdowells excellent book a study of. This model is actually made as a cartridge gun and was not made from a percussion. Cased london 1849 colt pocket, pistols historical and. My question is, has anyone ever seen a 1849 conversion with ejector rod. These 4150 arsenal grade steel conversions are dropin style that allow the shooter to still shoot with their original black powder cylinder. Presented here is a classic colt cap and ball revolver commonly referred to as the 1849 pocket model. Colt model 1862 police cartridge conversion revolver. As percussion parts ran short, the 1860 richardsmason barrel was changed from the profile of the earlier percussion model, to the.

As the selfcontained metallic cartridge because popular, a niche industry developed in converting percussion. Successor to the 1848 baby dragoon, colt s 1849 pocket model was a smaller version of their 1851 navy, with about 340,000 produced between 1850 and 1873, more 49 pockets were manufactured than any other colt percussion firearm. My dad left me a colt 1849 pocket model revolver with the patent number on the cylinder 1983. The model 1836 pistol was the culmination of decades of experiment, experience, and change.

Civilian pocket revolvers, such as the wells fargo or 1849 pocket, were. Colt model 1862 police cartridge conversion revolver c15799. Colt small frame conversion of pocket model 1849 cartridge revolver, 38 rimfire, no ejector, 3. Dixie gun works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare. With the addition of a loading lever this evolved into the 1849 pocket revolver see colt pocket percussion revolvers. It has a 6 barrel and the cylinder is engraved with picture of. Heres one of the most popular pistols carried by soldiers of both sides during the war between the states. Bruce mcdowell in his book, a study of colt conversions, on pages 340 and 341 pictures two examples of the. Colt first called this revolver the ranger model, but the designation navy quickly took over after the civil war, revolvers using fixed metallic cartridges came into widespread use. First serial number range with new frames from 1 to 19000 in 1862 models. Conversion cylinders if your not sure about which cylinder will best fit your needs give old south a call and we will do our best to answer your questions. The legendary singleaction army, the most popular colt ever, was developed after samuels death. Bruce mcdowell who wrote the conversion book some y.

The pistol is in the 1849 pocket serial number range, indicating production at the end of the 1870s. The 1873 cattleman black powder model is produced with specs like the popular peacemaker models in cartridge calibers. Pictured in the book colt conversions by r bruce mcdowell pages 345346. Catalogue antique firearms for sale antique american firearms. One of the first of these conversions was designed by f. America with coltspatent stamped on the left side of the frame. Variations of the old model pocket pistol 1849 to 1872 alhambra california. It falls into the correct serial range for a factory richardsmason conversion with serialmatching parts except for the wedge, and proper features and design for. Colt revolvers conversion 18671878 for sale guns international.

Colt only made 5000 thuer conversions and the rarest of all is the pocket model. The pocket navy is now deemed to have been manufactured from 1865 through to circa 1872 in. Bobs guns are featured in adlers book, metallic cartridge conversions, to. Colt 1861 navy conversion typically this is known as the 1861 conversion for the mason ejector. Unbeknownst to colt at the time of the model 1849s inception was the success that lay in their new product. Colt new model breech loading pocket pistol 38 rimfire caliber. Colt pocket navy conversion revolver with a round 3 12 barrel. Colt rifles bore gauge lot set x2 solid metal brass patina finish. Just as silver spring steel allowed colt to adapt a. Details about my uberti 1849 pocket model with cartridge conversion cylinder allowing 5 shots of. Shop every model of colt percussion and cartridge arm manufactured before 1899.

Factory engraved colt 4 12inch 38 caliber colt model 1862. Colt guns colt conversions page 1 collectors firearms. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia as the selfcontained metallic cartridge because popular, a niche industry developed in converting percussion revolvers to use the new cartridges. Artabras, a division of abbeville publishing group 1985. I use a 1849 colt pocket model like the one you posted. This conversion cylinder converts a pietta 1863 pocket remington revolver from. This particular revolver is one of only two 4 inch barreled variation catalogued in shumakers book colts variations of the old model pocket pistol 1848 to 1872 and is pictured on page 39 and discussed on page 41. This is a 5 barrel length, one line new york address. This model 1849 31 caliber colt, all serial numbers matching, except for the wedge is in great mechanical condition. Percussion frames in 1849 and 1862 models were of high serial numbers, mostly of the last serials of this model s production. Later, the development of the swingout cylinder again saw colt as a leading supplier of government contracts. Only around 2000 of these were done at the factory. They just simply machined the frame to accept the larger, rebated. Alexander thuer and marketed by the colt company itself.

Superfast shipping with excellent service from taylors and company. This model is described as 5b2 on page 100 of flaydermans 9th edition. Jan 20, 2018 details about my uberti 1849 pocket model with cartridge conversion cylinder allowing 5 shots of. In appearance, the frames are almost identical to the larger 1851 navy and. This identified set came from the family years ago and has been in a civil war collection for many years. Colt 1849 pocket revolver cartridge conversion rare. The colt model 1849 pocket revolver was colts answer when replacing their baby dragoon series of guns.

About good condition original antique colt cartridge conversion model 1849 pocket revolver in. It is in great condition with original holster and powder flask. Get the best deals on colt vintage hunting when you shop the largest online selection at. All the improvements in design of colt revolvers were applied to the dragoons as well to the smaller models of colt revolvers. Being city dwellers, this was a fun activity for the hubby and i, and.

It is now more correctly termed as the heading or as the pocket model of navy caliber or merely pocket navy. This is a really nice colt 61 navy original metallic cartridge conversion with 45% thinning. Feb 12, 2014 my dad left me a colt 1849 pocket model revolver with the patent number on the cylinder 1983. The trigger guard and back strap are not magnetic so i am assuming it is silver plated brass. I have a colt model 1849 pocket pistol owned by col. This revolver features american walnut grips, a balance 5 12 barrel and the weight and feel of a cartridge model. Howell old west conversions cylinders and back plates are made from certified 4150 arsenal grade steel for insuring strength and durability.

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